Edited post, hate is too strond of a word. Yes Chris, I really like both, are they considered rap? The only rap I really liked was Kid Rock. I think what soured me on it the most was the gangster, and cop bashing some most of it focused on, and the kids that crank their car stereos up just to annoy people, or to say "lookit me!" are usually thumping out rap. (picture old man shaking cane at young whippersnappers here

). I also dislike, most punk, screaming bands and especially disco even more! As you say, to each his own.
So, Kid Rock and green jelly beans in the green room Rob, anything else guys?

........ol tony