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Title: It's a noob.... set for stun!
Post by: Mosi on September 24, 2009, 09:27:19 AM
Hey all! After all of these years, I am seriously thinking about jumping in head first. Since I was a kid, I have always wanted a TK costume, so I think that's where I would like to start. My time is limited for making a costume, mostly because I want it ready for Halloween. I was looking at the SW licensed version that can be had for around $600 on Ebay. Is this 501st/CC approved and is it a good enough deal?

I like the volunteer work your guys do and would love to get involved!

BTW, I'm from Beaverton. 
Title: Re: It's a noob.... set for stun!
Post by: cojake on September 24, 2009, 09:44:29 AM
Hey bro, welcome!! 

Do not go for the licensed TK on ebay.  They look pretty bad up close and to my knowledege they are not 501st approved without some major modification.  You need to check out www.whitearmor.net and do a little research.  They discuss this suit in detail.  Your best bet for a TK starting out is to purchase an FX kit or the FX light kit (minus helmet)  and buy a better helmet to go with it.  The FX is what 90% of the 501st wears.  It is durable ABS plastic and stands up to the rigors of trooping.  The only issue is the helemt is a little oversized.  This can work to your advantage if you are 6 ft 3 inches though.  :wink:   If you are average size, they look alittle bobbleheaded.  If you want the ultimate in accuracy and can the "movie armor"  you seek TE armor or any of it's decendents.  This was molded from screen used armor, but comes at amore premium price and is a little more fragile.  Like I said, check iut the whitearmor forum AKA  the FISD.

Jason
Title: Re: It's a noob.... set for stun!
Post by: tavrikgannon on September 24, 2009, 10:31:26 AM
If the licensed armor you are referring to is the Rubies Supreme Storm Trooper armor, then listen to cojake. Those things are a nightmare and require a lot more work to get them approvable. In the end, you would have spent more money than you would have had you gone with a kit that any of us could recommend.

You did right by asking us where to start out. There are a lot of newbies who don't do that and spend money on a crap set because they make the claim that because it is a licensed product that it is accurate enough to make the grade. Of course, that is just marketing 101: sell the idea that this is a product that a consumer wants, claiming screen accuracy when it isn't.

I was GML last year and actually had to deny someone because they got one of these kits, prior to even contacting us. Believe it, or not, it happened all across the legion!

There are dealers that we can hook you up with that will get you a better kit, for the money you are spending.

Welcome to Cloud City Garrison!

 - Bill
Title: Re: It's a noob.... set for stun!
Post by: Mosi on September 24, 2009, 10:45:18 AM
Thanks for the info, guys!

Can you please hook me up with the dealer info for some quality kits? I am already getting knee deep in FX kit research.
Title: Re: It's a noob.... set for stun!
Post by: Sithman on September 24, 2009, 10:47:08 AM
Howdy Mosl welcome to the forums!

It is ill advised to purchase an Ebay stormtrooper kit,and certainly will be denied if it is a Rubies kit as Bill was stating.Anything of the Rubies merchandise is considered unacceptable by 501st standard(unless heavily modified.)BUT the garrison and I are here to help you find the proper sources you need to take your place in the 501st ranks^^
http://www.whitearmor.net/

this is one spot I'd recommend to check out and I'll send a list of vendors over shortly for you to browse over.Though I must warn you it is more then likely it will take more then halloween to assemble this armor,the reward will far outweigh the time spent.

Now then,any questions you might have?
Title: Re: It's a noob.... set for stun!
Post by: Sithman on September 24, 2009, 10:49:32 AM
PM sent!
Title: Re: It's a noob.... set for stun!
Post by: tavrikgannon on September 24, 2009, 11:10:22 AM
PM sent

 - Bill
Title: Re: It's a noob.... set for stun!
Post by: Mosi on September 24, 2009, 07:19:15 PM
Okay, I'm completely fried from doing hours of research today. I checked with txtupperware and he is changing the FX kit to an improved version so it will be several weeks. Can anyone point me in the right direction for a complete kit? I found a couple of UK sellers on Ebay that have full kits for around 1k, but I have no idea what sort of quality they are. Oh yeah, I also read that the FX is a bit more roomy than some of the other kits. I am 5'11 and 205lbs with larger, more muscular thighs and calves than normal. Anyone have any feedback on that? If it would be good to go, I would probably go with the FX lite and buy the helmet ala carte. Can anyone help me with links to some of the suppliers for both? it's pretty cryptic over on FISD so it's hard to find suppliers. I have about 1k to spend...
thanks!
Title: Re: It's a noob.... set for stun!
Post by: TD-8821 on September 24, 2009, 07:58:37 PM
hello and welcome!
Title: Re: It's a noob.... set for stun!
Post by: Quick2 on September 24, 2009, 08:29:43 PM
Okay, I'm completely fried from doing hours of research today. I checked with txtupperware and he is changing the FX kit to an improved version so it will be several weeks. Can anyone point me in the right direction for a complete kit? I found a couple of UK sellers on Ebay that have full kits for around 1k, but I have no idea what sort of quality they are. Oh yeah, I also read that the FX is a bit more roomy than some of the other kits. I am 5'11 and 205lbs with larger, more muscular thighs and calves than normal. Anyone have any feedback on that? If it would be good to go, I would probably go with the FX lite and buy the helmet ala carte. Can anyone help me with links to some of the suppliers for both? it's pretty cryptic over on FISD so it's hard to find suppliers. I have about 1k to spend...
thanks!

Welcome Mosi, 1 K just for a kit maybe too much.. don't rush .. we will check around so you get best deal. Jason (cojack) do you know someone??  I may a armor person in mind. I have to check it out.. stay tuned.
Title: Re: It's a noob.... set for stun!
Post by: Mosi on September 24, 2009, 09:04:35 PM


Welcome Mosi, 1 K just for a kit maybe too much.. don't rush .. we will check around so you get best deal. Jason (cojack) do you know someone??  I may a armor person in mind. I have to check it out.. stay tuned.
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Thanks.. I'm actually eyeballing the complete set up from SDS on Ebay right now. It looks like the dealer is ignoring the non-export to the US rule (Lucas lawsuit). It's a bit more but it comes with EVERYTHING including an SDS E11.

Please keep me informed as to what you find out and then I will decide. Thanks!
Title: Re: It's a noob.... set for stun!
Post by: cojake on September 24, 2009, 10:16:41 PM
I might be able to come up with something. I'll get back with you shortly (tomorrow)  Hold off on impulse buying in the meantime.

My screen name is cojake BTW  not cojack.  :wink:  Although I do have a bald head.  :lol:
Title: Re: It's a noob.... set for stun!
Post by: tavrikgannon on September 25, 2009, 08:11:55 AM
Mosi... follow the advice. Don't give in to impulse buying on ebay. 1K for a storm trooper armor kit is highway robbery. Those vendors are milking it because they know uninformed buyers will purchase them.

Be patient. We are actually looking out for your best interests (and pocket book).

 - Bill
Title: Re: It's a noob.... set for stun!
Post by: Quick2 on September 25, 2009, 02:10:27 PM
I might be able to come up with something. I'll get back with you shortly (tomorrow)  Hold off on impulse buying in the meantime.

My screen name is cojake BTW  not cojack.  :wink:  Although I do have a bald head.  :lol:
LOLOL, sorry Jason I know it is cojake.. I just had that other post in my head where it said cojoke..dang it Cojack.. LOL..

Hope you can help Mosi.. if not I will try something.
Title: Re: It's a noob.... set for stun!
Post by: Mosi on September 25, 2009, 03:35:54 PM
Thanks again, guys.

I am also very interested in the Tie Pilot. Just not sure.... on one hand, the TK has always been the ultimate to me but it's a pretty complex costume and it's not like you can just have a seat anywhere. On the other hand, the pilot looks pretty cool and has a lot more freedom of mobility. Is there a way to sit in the TK for a bit w/o destroying it?
Title: Re: It's a noob.... set for stun!
Post by: Hoot on September 25, 2009, 06:46:27 PM
Thanks again, guys.

I am also very interested in the Tie Pilot. Just not sure.... on one hand, the TK has always been the ultimate to me but it's a pretty complex costume and it's not like you can just have a seat anywhere. On the other hand, the pilot looks pretty cool and has a lot more freedom of mobility. Is there a way to sit in the TK for a bit w/o destroying it?

Mosi,

First welcome.  If flying is your cup of tea you should go here (http://www.jrsdetachment501st.org/) (<-Link) the Jolly Roger Squadron's (JRS) main site.  FYI: I am Hoot34 on the boards.
Title: Re: It's a noob.... set for stun!
Post by: Lufta Shif on September 25, 2009, 06:56:09 PM
Woohoo, more stormtroopers!   :D
Title: Re: It's a noob.... set for stun!
Post by: OldTonyKenobi on September 25, 2009, 07:41:16 PM
welcome Mosi, cant wait to meet/troop with you :D..............old tony kenobi
Title: Re: It's a noob.... set for stun!
Post by: Mosi on September 25, 2009, 07:50:21 PM
Okay, it's official... I have thunder thighs! I hooked up with Jason tonight and tried his armor out. My thighs are just a tad too big for the standard non-FX armor... the same with my calves. I quickly went to 5 Guys Burgers and Fries to drown my sorrow in a bacon cheeseburger  :mrgreen:

I hate to disappoint all of the TKs here, but I think I'm going to go with a pilot setup. Time to start shopping.... ugg!
Title: Re: It's a noob.... set for stun!
Post by: Hoot on September 25, 2009, 08:51:48 PM
I hate to disappoint all of the TKs here, but I think I'm going to go with a pilot setup. Time to start shopping.... ugg!

Mosi,

As I said go to the JRS forum.  :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Title: Re: It's a noob.... set for stun!
Post by: cojake on September 26, 2009, 07:35:25 PM
Marc, it was nice to meet you.  Good luck with your TI Pilot build.  I wish I new more, but I am more of a Boba Fett expert.  There are a couple of pilots here who could probably help.  Jason
Title: Re: It's a noob.... set for stun!
Post by: Sithman on September 26, 2009, 08:13:11 PM
If you'd like to sit,but still have a bit of armor there's also the tree dodgers to consider(AKA scout trooper)You can sit,run and have all sorts of fun,while still wearing mostly upper body armor and a flash helmet :mrgreen:
Title: Re: It's a noob.... set for stun!
Post by: Mosi on September 26, 2009, 09:06:35 PM
If you'd like to sit,but still have a bit of armor there's also the tree dodgers to consider(AKA scout trooper)You can sit,run and have all sorts of fun,while still wearing mostly upper body armor and a flash helmet :mrgreen:


I can see this as being an addiction because I was looking at the Scouts as well. When does it end? !! I think it would be WAY cool to do a Scout up in MARPAT Woodland (USMC pattern). I know it wouldn't be authorized, but dang it would be sweet!
Title: Re: It's a noob.... set for stun!
Post by: tavrikgannon on September 28, 2009, 09:41:20 AM
Official? No... but yeah, it would look pretty sweet. Just look at Daniel's all-metal scout... that thing was freakin' awesome!

Like Matt said, the JRS will have all of the information that you could possibly need. I have a pilot costume, so I can give you a hand, if you need. Just let me know, man!

 - Bill
Title: Re: It's a noob.... set for stun!
Post by: Sithman on October 04, 2009, 07:48:13 PM
If you'd like to sit,but still have a bit of armor there's also the tree dodgers to consider(AKA scout trooper)You can sit,run and have all sorts of fun,while still wearing mostly upper body armor and a flash helmet :mrgreen:


I can see this as being an addiction because I was looking at the Scouts as well. When does it end? !! I think it would be WAY cool to do a Scout up in MARPAT Woodland (USMC pattern). I know it wouldn't be authorized, but dang it would be sweet!

Agreed,that would be too cool!You could always do that after getting your first outfit finished and approved,then have a little fun building a scout that actually blends into wilderness^^
Title: Re: It's a noob.... set for stun!
Post by: Mosi on October 04, 2009, 09:11:17 PM
Okay.. I'm ready to go I think. I was going to shine the helmet up a bit more after working on it all day AND take a lint roller to the flight suit to remove the fur from my Wookie cats, but the pics didn't pick that up so I think I will just submit tomorrow.

I bought a guy's Don Post Classic bucket, armor, and box off of Ebay and everything else is my doing (or buying). I spent about 25 hours this weekend installing a headliner, painting touch ups on the box, polishing, painting the comm link (thanks Matt), painting blasters, and running around for supplies.

I just have to get a good PA so I don't have to yell.

 
Hangar A or Hanger B? 
(http://www.daxsys.net/sw/tie1.jpg)

Hey you in the orange flight suit! I've got something for ya!
(http://www.daxsys.net/sw/tie2.jpg)
Title: Re: It's a noob.... set for stun!
Post by: Mosi on October 04, 2009, 09:20:01 PM
Never mind.... I have to do another photo shoot because I forgot to take one with my helmet off. That will have to be tomorrow and maybe I can get some better lighting to actually show that I DO have pockets on my suit  :mrgreen:     .... it's pretty hard to show much detail when you are wearing all black.
Title: Re: It's a noob.... set for stun!
Post by: cojake on October 05, 2009, 09:26:39 AM
Looking good.  Make sure to take some good hi-res shots both front, back, and sides.  Then get a couple without your helmet.  Then you just wait for approval which can take a while (especially at the legion end) 
Title: Re: It's a noob.... set for stun!
Post by: tavrikgannon on October 05, 2009, 09:30:59 AM
It doesn't take that long, actually. The applicant sends in their information and a queue is generated for the GML to go take a look at the system, to see that there is a pending member.

Once the applicant is in the queue, and the GML has the pics to look over, the applicant can be approved right away. I was approved within 2 days.

The best advice is for applicant and GML to be in constant communication. That will decrease the time waiting for approval, drastically.

 - Bill
Title: Re: It's a noob.... set for stun!
Post by: Hoot on October 05, 2009, 04:41:57 PM
I spent about 25 hours this weekend installing a headliner, painting touch ups on the box, polishing, painting the comm link (thanks Matt), painting blasters, and running around for supplies.

Again, no problem. I was happy to help.  :D :D
Title: Re: It's a noob.... set for stun!
Post by: Mosi on October 05, 2009, 06:04:55 PM
It doesn't take that long, actually. The applicant sends in their information and a queue is generated for the GML to go take a look at the system, to see that there is a pending member.

Once the applicant is in the queue, and the GML has the pics to look over, the applicant can be approved right away. I was approved within 2 days.

The best advice is for applicant and GML to be in constant communication. That will decrease the time waiting for approval, drastically.

 - Bill

I have all my photos ready. Is the GML up to date on the CCG home page? I think you said it was Nick, but the home page says it's Dave Hamm.
Title: Re: It's a noob.... set for stun!
Post by: Sithman on October 05, 2009, 06:57:39 PM
PM sent
Title: Re: It's a noob.... set for stun!
Post by: Mosi on October 08, 2009, 02:04:56 PM
It's partially official! Sithman gave me the green light! Just have to wait for the 501st to get me registered now.
Title: Re: It's a noob.... set for stun!
Post by: cojake on October 08, 2009, 02:21:54 PM
Very cool!  Looking forward to trooping with you. 
Title: Re: It's a noob.... set for stun!
Post by: Mosi on October 08, 2009, 09:20:20 PM
It just keeps getting better..... I just got my TK ID from the 501st. TI 9865 reporting in!
Title: Re: It's a noob.... set for stun!
Post by: TD-8821 on October 08, 2009, 09:31:32 PM
awesome!!!congrats Mosi!!!
Title: Re: It's a noob.... set for stun!
Post by: cojake on October 08, 2009, 09:32:00 PM
Wow!!  Congrats Marc!  That was fast.   Cool number you got too. :wink:

Jason (BH-4865)
Title: Re: It's a noob.... set for stun!
Post by: Mosi on October 08, 2009, 09:37:51 PM
Wow!!  Congrats Marc!  That was fast.   Cool number you got too. :wink:

Jason (BH-4865)

Thanks! I was really hoping to score my MOS, but it wasn't meant to be  :)
Title: Re: It's a noob.... set for stun!
Post by: cojake on October 09, 2009, 07:29:24 AM
I never thought about my MOS.  I just used my address.  :roll:  That would have been kinda cool.
Title: Re: It's a noob.... set for stun!
Post by: tavrikgannon on October 09, 2009, 07:36:04 AM
That is pretty cool, man. I picked a wide variation of numbers. I was fortunate that I got my first pick, which was 7279 - the years that my older brother was born and passed away. It was the ultimate tribute to him, considering that it is because of him that I am the ultimate Star Wars geek!

 - Bill
Title: Re: It's a noob.... set for stun!
Post by: Carlos on October 09, 2009, 11:00:06 AM
Congrats Mosi!